Rachel & Steph welcome back Penny Williams for a retrospective on her parenting journey. She talks about what she wishes she knew, how she didn’t know what she didn’t know, and how the grass isn’t always greener. She also talks about the work she’s done on her own mindset to help her become the parent she wants to be. 

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Other episodes mentioned:

Ep 91: Raising Complex Children with ADHD/Autism Coach Penny Williams (Author Series)